Taking on Nvidia and betting on transformers with Gavin Uberti from Etched
20 Aug 2024 (3 months ago)
Etched's Business Model and Market Position
- Etched is a company that produces specialized AI chips designed specifically for running Transformer models, aiming to be significantly faster than competitors by focusing on a single domain. (2m27s)
- Etched is developing hardware specifically designed for transformer models, unlike competitors like Nvidia whose hardware supports a broader range of models. (6m19s)
- Etched believes they have an 18-month lead on competitors like Nvidia and Google in developing transformer-specific hardware and liken the potential market shift to the adoption of ASICs in Bitcoin mining. (9m21s)
- Etched is going to focus on building specialized chips for one specific AI model. (32m42s)
- There are few areas outside of cybersecurity where a single-feature startup can be successful. (39m10s)
- There is a lack of case studies to determine if a company focused on one specific AI chip can succeed. (39m29s)
- Etched, a company focused on building specialized AI chips, may expand to build other types of chips in the future. (39m59s)
Demand for Etched's Technology and Fundraising
- The company was founded in 2022 when Transformers were a risky bet, with no major use case established yet. (3m26s)
- The release of ChatGPT, while not fully validating Etched's approach, demonstrated the demand for high processing power in AI, leading to successful fundraising and hiring for the company. (4m16s)
- The cost of training large language models is increasing, with models like GPT-5 projected to cost over a billion dollars to train, making specialized hardware like Etched's a more economically viable option. (7m0s)
- Etched has secured tens of millions of dollars in contracts for their new AI chips before the first production run has even been completed. (13m2s)
- Some potential customers who were unable to secure a contract for the first production run became investors in Etched. (13m8s)
- Fundraising was not a significant challenge for Etched, as the company was able to secure funding from existing investors and new investors, including Hummingbird, Fundo, Oceans, Two Sigma, and Skybox. (13m59s)
- Etched was able to raise a significant amount of money very quickly after the release of ChatGPT-4. (36m51s)
Gavin Uberti's Vision and Leadership at Etched
- Gavin Uberti traveled the world working for a company called octoml where he developed AI models. (15m47s)
- Uberti believes that only 3% of the transistors in an Nvidia h100 are used for the math blocks that perform multiplication. (16m31s)
- Uberti believes that gpt3 was a turning point in AI development because it demonstrated that scaling up models could lead to significant improvements. (18m0s)
- Etched is building a system, not just a chip, and requires a platform, high-quality software, a customer success organization, and talented individuals to run these operations. (22m39s)
- Gavin Uberti, CEO of Etched, prioritizes hiring exceptional talent, emphasizing the importance of a fully in-person company culture with dedicated individuals passionate about building future technology. (24m42s)
- The speaker believes their job as CEO has three components: taking care of the employees, setting the long-term vision, and ensuring the company doesn't run out of money. (25m15s)
- The speaker believes that building computers is a social problem and that building unique products requires a team effort. (28m3s)
- Etched's founder, Gavin, believes their valuation is meaningless unless they create a product that people want to buy and use. (38m6s)
Challenges and Growth at Etched
- Meta published a paper on their large language model, Llama 3, revealing that their training clusters crashed every 3 hours on average. (20m49s)
- Etched has a larger stock option pool than other companies at a similar stage because they want to recruit the best talent and compensate them fairly. (24m57s)
- Chris had to wait two months to see a doctor. (29m59s)
- Gavin and Chris's health insurance start date was moved from September 1st to August 1st. (30m25s)
- Etched is a young company whose founder did not initially think to get health insurance for himself or his employees. (33m56s)