Why Dr. Shawn Baker (King of Carnivore) Added FRUIT to his Diet

16 Mar 2024 (9 months ago)
Why Dr. Shawn Baker (King of Carnivore) Added FRUIT to his Diet

Intro (0s)

  • Dr. Shawn Baker, known as the "king of carnivore," has recently added fruit to his diet, which may surprise some given his previous strict carnivore approach.

Grass-Finished Meat Delivered to Your Doorstep (23s)

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  • The meat is of high quality, with a deep red color, unlike the bright red meat often found in grocery stores.

Why Shawn Added in Fruit to His Diet (1m26s)

  • Shawn Baker experimented with adding fruit to his carnivore diet to test the lean mass hyper responder and lipid energy model.
  • He ate 100 grams of fruit, mostly apples, for a week and monitored his cholesterol levels.
  • His cholesterol levels did not change significantly, indicating that he may not be lean enough to be a lean mass hyper responder.
  • He experienced gut irritation after a few days of eating fruit.
  • Shawn Baker fasted for 24 hours and his cholesterol dropped to 156, which is relatively normal.
  • After a hard workout that depleted his glycogen stores, his cholesterol increased to 346.
  • This supports the lipid energy model, which suggests that cholesterol levels vary based on energy availability.
  • Shawn Baker emphasizes that he is not dogmatic about the carnivore diet and encourages experimentation to find what works best for individuals.
  • He views diet as a means to achieve health, rather than a strict set of rules or a religion.
  • While he primarily follows a carnivore diet, he occasionally incorporates other foods and does not worry excessively about it.

Lean Mass Hyper-Responder (LMHR) (4m47s)

  • A lean mass hyper-responder (LMHR) is someone who has:
    • LDL cholesterol above 200
    • Triglycerides below 70
    • HDL above 80
  • LMHR is usually acquired through a low-carb diet, ketogenic diet, or carnivore diet.
  • LMHR individuals are otherwise metabolically healthy, with:
    • Low HDL
    • High HDL
    • Low triglycerides
    • Good glycemic control
    • Normal blood pressure
    • Normal BMI
  • High LDL cholesterol in LMHR individuals may be potentially protective against heart disease, but more research is needed.
  • The study by Matt Budoff will be the first to critically examine the relationship between LDL cholesterol and heart disease in LMHR individuals.
  • A study by Morton out of Denmark in 2022 found that LDL cholesterol had no bearing on major adverse cardiac events in individuals with a zero coronary artery calcium score.
  • Some researchers believe that particle number over time is the only factor that determines heart disease risk, but this view is considered unscientific.
  • Chris Gardner, a respected nutritionist from Stanford, believes it is unethical to study people on a carnivore diet, but Dr. Baker disagrees, arguing that studying these individuals is essential to understanding the health effects of the carnivore diet.

Glucose Spikes From Exercise (8m9s)

  • Athletes driving their glucose up high all the time doesn't necessarily mean it's bad.
  • Optimal glucose levels for peak performance in athletes can be as high as 200.
  • Glucose levels can fluctuate significantly based on factors like exercise and energy fluxes.
  • Basing health decisions on a single measurement, like total cholesterol, lacks nuance and doesn't account for the dynamic nature of physiology.
  • No specific information about fruit is provided in this section.

Adding Fruit to Carnivore Diet | Benefits of Fruit (10m7s)

  • Carbohydrates can enhance performance for adapted athletes but may have negative effects for individuals with certain health conditions.
  • Training is crucial for muscle growth, with diet playing a secondary role.
  • Athletes may need up to six months to adapt to a carnivore diet for optimal performance.
  • Finding the minimum effective dose of carbohydrates can minimize negative effects while still benefiting from their performance-enhancing properties.
  • Dr. Shawn Baker, a prominent advocate of the carnivore diet, has incorporated fruit into his diet, recognizing the importance of glucose for brain, adrenal, testicle, and red blood cell function.
  • Consuming carbohydrates can cause a spike in blood glucose levels, especially for those not adapted to it.
  • Dr. Baker focuses on helping individuals with autoimmune diseases, food addiction, diabetes, and obesity, rather than optimizing athletic performance.
  • Older athletes may have different dietary and nutritional perspectives compared to younger athletes.

Shawn's Diet Before Carnivore (15m28s)

  • Shawn used to party, drink, and eat poorly without any noticeable health issues.
  • In his late 20s, he transitioned from rugby to powerlifting and gained weight rapidly by consuming 10,000 calories a day.
  • He ate excessively, including multiple entrees, appetizers, and desserts.

Thomas' Carb Intake (16m48s)

  • Thomas adds between 70 to 120 grams of carbohydrates to his diet on high-training days.
  • He hasn't noticed a significant difference in his training performance but feels he might have slightly better peak performance and sleep.
  • Adding carbs has helped his sleep but has also increased inflammation and joint pain.
  • Despite consuming close to 100 grams of carbs per day, he still registers 0.5 millimoles of ketones.
  • Thomas speculates that his higher training demand while consuming carbs might be putting more mileage on his joints, causing inflammation.

Combining Fats & Carbs (18m20s)

  • Shawn Baker decreases his fat intake when he eats carbs.
  • He finds that he ends up eating fewer calories and feeling tired when he combines carbs and fats.
  • Baker believes that the combination of fat and carbs, like donuts and ice cream, is a significant driver of fat storage and obesity.
  • He suggests that it's better to be primarily adapted to either fat or carbs, rather than combining the two.
  • Baker emphasizes the importance of consuming fat when following a low-carb or zero-carb diet and carbohydrates when following a very low-fat diet.
  • Unlike essential fats and essential protein amino acids, carbohydrates are not essential but can provide energy and be useful.

Physique of Our Ancestors - What Are We Designed To Do (20m45s)

  • Humans today are not designed to have six-packs and low body fat percentages like bodybuilders.
  • Indigenous populations throughout history have typically had higher body fat percentages, around 10-18%.
  • The type of training we do today, with high repetitions and heavy weights, is likely not comparable to what humans were designed to do.
  • Carrying things over long distances, pushing and pulling heavy objects occasionally, and not sitting for long periods are more in line with our natural design.

Humans Are Omnivores (22m20s)

  • Humans are omnivores and have the ability to thrive on a mostly meat diet.
  • If Twinkies had been available 50,000 years ago, humans would have likely eaten them due to their taste and energy content.
  • Humans intuitively ate what tasted good to them, with animal fat and fruit being likely dietary components.
  • The availability of fruit would have depended on the geographical location and climate, with tropical regions having year-round access and colder regions having limited access during ice ages.

Best & Worst Cuts of Meat (23m41s)

  • Meat has phytonutrients and polyphenols, which are conditionally beneficial compounds.
  • Pasture-finished meat has a greater concentration of these compounds compared to grain-fed meat.
  • The bioavailability of these compounds in meat is high.
  • There is no significant difference in clinical outcomes between people who eat grain-fed beef and grass-fed beef.
  • Regeneratively raised meat may have environmental benefits, but it is not essential for improving health.

Doing Carnivore Without Red Meat (27m0s)

  • Most people who successfully follow a carnivore diet long-term focus on some form of red meat like beef, lamb, or wild game.
  • There are no known successful cases of people doing carnivore with only white meat.
  • Historically, Arctic explorer Vilhjalmur Stefansson lived with the Inuit for 12 years and ate only fish for six months, claiming to be healthier than ever.
  • Fish has a heart-healthy reputation and may offer some benefits.
  • Dr. Baker recommends avoiding prepackaged meats with long ingredient lists and opting for whole cuts of meat.

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