Stanford Seminar - Silicon Valley & The U.S. Government: Saronic Technologies’ Dino Mavrookas

11 Jul 2024 (5 months ago)
Stanford Seminar - Silicon Valley & The U.S. Government: Saronic Technologies’ Dino Mavrookas

Sanic Company

  • Sanic, an autonomous surface vessel company, was co-founded by Doo, a former Navy SEAL and Wharton graduate.
  • Doo left his job at Vista Equity Partners to start Sanic, driven by a sense of duty and a desire to build products that enhance America's security.
  • Sanic secured $70 million in funding within two years due to its product-market fit and urgent demand for its solutions.
  • The company formed two Cooperative Research and Development Agreements (CRADAs) with the Navy within 90 days of its inception, demonstrating the critical nature of the problems it addresses.
  • Sanic's partnership with the Navy has resulted in successful live demonstrations and test and evaluation events, showcasing its cutting-edge technology.
  • Doo emphasizes the significance of scale in solving the problem and building the Navy of the future.
  • Sanic focuses on early recruiting and attracts top talent by leveraging the expertise of its founding team and its compelling mission.
  • Doo highlights the need for early lobbying and government relations efforts in the defense sector.

Challenges and Opportunities

  • Sanic's initial design was based on an electric surfboard with a quadcopter, but it later realized that it couldn't carry enough weight for military purposes.
  • The company's focus is on scaling manufacturing to produce hundreds of small, attritable systems, including surface vessels, aerial drones, and subsea drones.
  • Sanic aims to become a large defense prime within the next 5-10 years, focusing on the Navy and exploring adjacent products like advanced manufacturing for munitions and spinning off technologies.
  • The former Navy SEAL founder is encouraged by the speed at which the Navy and the military have moved to acquire new technologies in the past 12-18 months.
  • To improve procurement, the DoD should continue leaning into new companies with advanced software and hardware that offer the best capabilities.
  • The US industrial base should receive more investment, similar to the levels seen during World War II, to bolster shipbuilding, munitions manufacturing, and other critical areas.
  • The hardest challenge for the founder has been keeping up with the rapid growth and staying ahead by thinking six to twelve months in advance.

Advice for Entrepreneurs

  • Follow your calling, be prepared to dive into the details while also taking a broader perspective, and don't be afraid to take risks.
  • Pull on threads, understand the big impacts you want to have, and then ask questions.
  • Be willing to listen to feedback and put yourself out there to receive it.
  • Don't expect every company to succeed, as 95% of venture capital-backed companies fail, and this should not be different in the defense space.

Defense Industry Insights

  • There is a demand for active engagement in the kill chain to provide deterrence at scale, with USVs offering benefits over aerial drones and submarines.
  • Challenges exist in the supply chain, particularly with access to raw rare earth materials, which require government and policy influence.
  • China is the primary concern for the Navy, with the Taiwan defense scenario being the most pressing problem to solve.
  • The company focuses on defense and believes that military-grade solutions have directly applicable use cases in the commercial market.
  • The company prioritizes scale and end-to-end capability in autonomous platforms, including hardware design, software development, sensor integration, and manufacturing.
  • The founder and CEO remains actively involved in recruiting, lobbying, and supporting the team, while also taking a distributed leadership approach.
  • The company acknowledges the challenges of the military acquisition process and suggests the involvement of private sector advisors with domain expertise.
  • The company utilizes AI to distribute decision-making to the edge, enabling platforms to operate independently and adapt to contested environments.
  • The company anticipates a shift in federal funding from traditional platforms to autonomous and more economical platforms that can be produced at scale.

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