Is Brazil on Path to Become Cuba? | Eduardo Bolsonaro | EP 498

Coming up (0s)

• The powers that be on the establishment side regard Elon Musk as a threat because he poses a challenge to their status quo (6s).
• Musk's intentions to supplant YouTube are seen as a threat, as the platform is known for its biased practices such as shadow banning and manipulating search algorithms (8s).
• The recent shadow banning of the Joe Rogan and Donald Trump discussion on YouTube is cited as an example of the platform's attempts to suppress conservative voices (14s).
• The manipulation of search algorithms is another tactic used by YouTube to reduce the visibility of certain content and viewpoints (17s).
• The existence of alternative social media companies can mitigate the impact of shadow banning and other forms of censorship on YouTube (24s).
• The freedom to create new social media platforms can provide a solution to the problem of biased moderation and censorship on established platforms like YouTube (38s).

Intro (43s)

• Brazil has been gaining attention globally, particularly in the United States, due to a public dispute between Elon Musk and a renowned member of the Brazilian Supreme Court, which has implications for the battle between free speech and government regulation (56s).
• Eduardo Bolsonaro, a congressman in Brazil and the son of former President Jair Bolsonaro, was interviewed to discuss the culture war in Brazil, which is similar to the culture wars in the United States, Canada, Europe, New Zealand, and Australia (1m27s).
• The conversation covered the political structure and landscape of Brazil, the impact of the social media revolution, and the background to the dispute between Musk and the Brazilian Supreme Court (2m10s).
• The implications of the dispute for the battle between free speech and government regulation were also discussed, highlighting its relevance to the global struggle between these two forces (2m25s).
• Understanding the political landscape of various countries, including Brazil, can help deepen one's understanding of local issues in countries like the United States and Canada (2m37s).
• The discussion with Eduardo Bolsonaro aimed to provide insight into South America, Central America, Brazil, and the global culture war, as well as shed light on the battle between Musk and the Brazilian Supreme Court (3m21s).

What you need to know about Brazil’s history: military rule and the ongoing fight for democracy (3m43s)

• A recent trip to South America, specifically Brazil, highlighted that many cultural war issues relevant in North America and Europe are also present in South America, particularly in Brazil (3m49s).
• There is a lack of attention paid to South American issues in the North American and European press, which is not ideal considering the importance of the region (4m21s).
• Eduardo Bolsonaro, a 40-year-old Brazilian, is the third son of former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro and has two children, a four-year-old daughter, and a one-year-old son (5m25s).
• Eduardo is married to Eloisa, who supports his endeavors, and he is proud to be a part of this discussion (5m37s).
• Brazil experienced a military regime from 1964 to 1985, which started to avoid the country becoming like Cuba under a communist president (5m51s).
• The military regime was followed by a period of indirect elections, where the Congress voted for the president, until democracy was re-established in 1985 (6m23s).
• Eduardo's father, Jair Bolsonaro, was an army captain in the late 1980s and had problems within the army due to his complaints about military salaries and his unauthorized interviews (7m0s).
• Jair Bolsonaro was jailed for 15 days in a military jail and later ran for City Council in Rio de Janeiro in 1988 to calm down the situation, which led to his election and a three-month leave from the army (7m44s).
• Jair Bolsonaro's political career continued as he ran for Congressman in 1990 (8m11s).
• A Brazilian representative was elected and stayed in Congress for 28 years, getting reelected mainly through the votes of militaries and their families (8m14s).
• Around 2010, the politically correct movement in Brazil started to increase, with a key point being an interview where a politician discussed a situation in a Brazilian jail called Pedras Jail, where criminals started killing each other (8m31s).
• The politician, who was running to be the chairman of the human rights committee in Congress, responded to journalists' questions about the situation in the jail, stating that people should not rob, murder, or kidnap, and that this was a matter of human life (9m3s).
• The interview went viral, and at that time, the politician's son was a lawyer in the federal police, serving on the border between Brazil and Bolivia (9m40s).
• In 2014, the son asked his father for support to run for Congress, and with his father's support, he received over 82,000 votes in the state of São Paulo, spending less than $10,000 on his campaign (9m55s).
• Before 1964, Brazil had a president called Juscelino Kubitschek, who resigned after seven months in office, and his vice president, a communist, started talking about ending private property and redistributing land to the people (10m56s).
• This led to huge protests, with over one million people in Rio de Janeiro asking the military to prevent Brazil from becoming a communist country like Cuba (12m13s).
• On April 1st, 1964, the Congress stated that if the president did not return to Brazil from his trip to China, the military would take action (12m27s).
• A scenario is described where the presidential chair in Brazil is declared vacant, and a new election is opened after the previous president resigned due to external interference (12m47s).
• The Congress then elects a general, who is the first of this period of time, in 1964, with the military initially intending to give back power to civil society quickly (13m2s).
• However, due to radical left groups causing instability, including bombings, kidnappings, and the kidnapping of the US ambassador, the military decides to rule the country instead, staying in power for 20 years (13m29s).
• The concept of success is discussed, with fame being considered not inherently bad, but also not necessarily a marker of usefulness (13m41s).
• It is noted that a small percentage of highly successful men are willing to sacrifice everything in pursuit of success, and that success is not a static state, but rather a continuous journey (14m3s).
• The idea of success is defined as integrating both the journey and the destination, requiring continuous effort to maintain (14m25s).

Brazil is more politically politicized than the U.S., shifting the center (14m46s)

• Brazil had a period of government from 1964 to 1985 where the president was nominated by Congress, not the people, and this period is viewed differently by Brazilians, with some missing it due to the country's economic development and low murder rates, while others see it as a time of censorship and state killings (15m4s).
• During this period, Brazil's economy grew significantly, becoming the 44th largest economy in the world, and the country invested heavily in infrastructure, including roads, nuclear energy, and hydroelectric power (15m18s).
• However, in the 1980s, the economy stagnated due to the oil crisis and other issues, leading to increasing political pressure to return power to the people (15m59s).
• In 1979, the government granted amnesty to radical left-wing groups, allowing them to return to the country, in an effort to pacify the nation and eventually return power to the people (16m26s).
• The president at the time, a military general, warned that the radical left would take power and make the people suffer, a prophecy that some believe has come true (17m2s).
• The political spectrum in Brazil is highly polarized, with a strong presence of radical left and right-wing groups, and the left is seen as a minority that speaks louder due to their control of the press, unions, and politics (18m37s).
• The conservative side, which includes the speaker, lacks a strong political party and presence in universities and colleges (18m59s).
• Brazil lacks conservative think tanks and institutions, unlike the US, which has organizations like the Heritage Foundation, but is starting to build them (19m5s).
• The Brazilian military is generally considered right-wing, but they do not typically engage in politics after 1985 (19m22s).
• The left in Brazil has control over institutions, including the media, which they used to demonize the military during the 80s and 90s (19m34s).
• The sense of democracy in Brazil was dominated by the PT (liberal party), which is extreme left and communist, and the social democrats, which are center-left (19m59s).
• The PT has relationships with politicians like AOC, Bernie Sanders, and Lula Da Silva (20m5s).
• The rise of Jair Bolsonaro changed the political spectrum in Brazil, making right-wing politics more acceptable (20m23s).
• In the previous election, the Social Democrat Geraldo Alckmin ran for president and called Lula Silva a thief, but now Geraldo Alckmin is the vice president of Lula Silva's government (20m44s).
• Jair Bolsonaro's presidency was disruptive, exposing corruption and challenging the status quo, and the internet played a crucial role in breaking the monopoly of mainstream media and bringing more information to the public (21m11s).
• The Brazilian government is trying to regulate and democratize the internet and social media to control the narrative, which they lost with the rise of alternative sources of information (21m35s).
• Elon Musk has been involved in a battle with the Brazilian political leadership, which is a complex issue (21m42s).

The right amount of government, liberals in Brazil are considered right-wing (21m55s)

• Eduardo Bolsonaro's father was a city counselor in 1988 and a congressman in 1990, and he spent 28 years in Congress, shifting the spectrum of political discourse in Brazil from center-left to radical left and center-left (21m57s).
• Eduardo Bolsonaro describes himself as center-right and believes in a minimum size of administration, not wanting to destroy the administration but rather have the government rule certain things (22m22s).
• He emphasizes the importance of the government in ruling situations such as traffic laws, where individuals cannot be left to do as they please, and in defending the country from external threats (23m0s).
• Bolsonaro also highlights the need for the police to defend society from harm and for an army to preserve the country's culture and civilization (23m45s).
• He believes that a balance is necessary, where the government has a role in certain aspects of life, but also allows for individual freedom and a free market economy (22m53s).
• Bolsonaro distinguishes his views from those of far-right or far-left ideologies, which he believes want to control the economy 100% or have no administration at all (22m35s).
• He emphasizes the importance of being sensitive when discussing these issues to avoid going too far in either direction (23m3s).
• The conversation also touches on the topic of business and the future, with a mention of NetSuite by Oracle as a tool for businesses to future-proof their operations (24m26s).
• The Brazilian political landscape is viewed as an argument between two parties on the left, with the right-wing being more libertarian or classic liberal, and the speaker considers himself a classical conservative (25m50s).
• In Brazil, the term "liberal" is associated with the right and means access to a free market, unlike in Canada and the US where it is linked to the left and progressive policies (26m56s).
• The difference between Brazilian liberals and conservatives lies in their stance on issues like drug laws, with liberals wanting more flexible rules and conservatives opposing it (27m26s).
• Brazil is experiencing a moral crisis, and the priority is to rescue the country and restore people's faith in the administration (27m48s).
• The current president, Lula da Silva, is criticized for increasing taxes, traveling extensively, and spending large amounts of money, including over $200,000 daily when traveling outside of Brazil (28m3s).
• Lula da Silva's administration is taxing even small purchases from China, affecting poor and medium-class people, and has spent more money than the previous president during the pandemic (28m43s).
• The economy is not performing well, with the price of the American dollar in Brazil exploding, despite Lula da Silva benefiting from the previous administration's privatization and tax policies (29m11s).
• The previous administration, led by the speaker's father, had a classical liberal economy minister, Paulo Guedes, who received autonomy to implement policies, resulting in low inflation and high foreign investments (29m40s).
• Eduardo Bolsonaro's father, who is also a congressman, acknowledged his limitations in economics, stating he would appoint someone capable of handling the task, as seen in the appointment of a liberal "Chicago boy" to the Ministry of Economy, a first since 1985 (29m55s).
• Eduardo Bolsonaro was elected to congress in 2014, receiving 82,224 votes, and during his first term, he observed his father's increasing popularity as he traveled to different states in Brazil almost every week (30m27s).
• Eduardo Bolsonaro's father would typically travel to a different state on Thursdays and return to the capital, Brasilia, on Fridays, allowing him to connect with people across Brazil while still serving as a congressman (30m43s).

Jair Bolsonaro found popularity by stepping outside of the politically correct (30m58s)

• Jair Bolsonaro gained popularity as a congressman by distinguishing himself from others and stepping outside of the politically correct, which attracted people to him (30m58s).
• Bolsonaro's stance against affirmative action for black people in Brazil, citing the country's history of racial mixing, led to him being labeled as a racist, despite his argument that there are many rich black people in Brazil (31m12s).
• He also positioned himself against a bill that could have led to pastors being jailed for reading certain parts of the Bible, which some people saw as homophobic, but Bolsonaro saw as unfair (31m57s).
• Bolsonaro traveled extensively throughout Brazil, speaking directly to common people through local press and radio, which helped to build his popularity and challenge the narrative portrayed by larger media outlets (32m15s).
• His use of the internet, smartphones, and social media also contributed to his popularity, making him a "phenomenon" and ultimately leading to his election as president in 2018 (32m50s).
• Bolsonaro's ambition to become president was driven by his frustration with the corruption and radical left-wing administration in Brazil, as well as his desire to challenge the status quo (33m30s).
• He was inspired by the possibility of becoming president after seeing another politician, Jusf, who was also from a humble background, and thought "why not me?" (33m59s).
• Bolsonaro's hard work and dedication, even at the age of almost 70, were key factors in his success, and he had a clear plan and project in place to achieve his goal of becoming president (34m22s).

How the presidential election works in Brazil, the governmental structure (35m3s)

• Brazil is a presidential system, different from Canada's parliamentarism and the US system, where the president is elected directly and every vote counts, with no electoral college system (35m4s).
• In Brazil, voting is mandatory for citizens between 18 and 70 years old, with a fine of around $1 for not voting, and approximately 130-140 million people are eligible to vote (35m47s).
• Presidential candidates in Brazil need to campaign across the entire country, as every vote counts, making it a challenging and energy-intensive process (36m12s).
• In the 2018 presidential election, Jair Bolsonaro's campaign was successful despite being relatively low-budget, with estimated spending of less than $1 million, thanks to strong public support (36m34s).
• Jair Bolsonaro's campaign focused on issues such as defending the family, reducing the size of the administration, respecting children, and opposing gender ideology in schools, as well as supporting law enforcement and punishing criminals (36m55s).
• The mainstream media labeled Jair Bolsonaro as racist, xenophobic, and unsupportive of poor people, women, and black people, but his message was successfully conveyed to the public through social media, controlled by his son Carlos Bolsonaro (37m36s).

Using social media to directly reach the people, how Joe Rogan became the most powerful journalist (38m3s)

• The internet has dramatically reduced the cost of political campaigns, allowing candidates to reach a large audience without relying on traditional media, as seen in Donald Trump's appearance on Joe Rogan's show, which garnered 44 million views (38m13s).
• The barrier to entry on social media platforms is essentially zero, enabling candidates like Pierre Poilievre in Canada to build their own channels and reach a large audience, bypassing traditional media (38m35s).
• In Brazil, the legacy media is increasingly state-controlled and subsidized, leading to a biased narrative, but social media has allowed candidates to circumvent this and reach voters directly (38m46s).
• The use of social media in Brazil has become crucial, with platforms like Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok being widely used, although the situation has changed since 2018, with more restrictions on freedom of speech (39m54s).
• The Supreme Court of Brazil has been investigating the "fake news" issue since 2019, targeting the Bolsonaro family and their allies, and has been accused of harassment and attempting to destroy reputations (40m31s).
• The investigation has had a significant impact on the Bolsonaro family, with the federal police even visiting their home to seize a vaccine card, and despite numerous accusations, no evidence has been found (41m13s).
• The investigation may be an organized harassment campaign, but it's also possible that the authorities are stunned by the success of the Bolsonaro family's social media strategy and are trying to understand how it was achieved with little to no budget (41m30s).
• The reality is that the narrative created by the authorities and the media can be more powerful than the actual facts, and the Bolsonaro family has been a victim of this phenomenon (41m56s).
• The left and liberals do not understand the shift in power from traditional media outlets like CNN and MSNBC to social media and podcasting, with figures like Joe Rogan having a much larger reach and influence (42m34s).
• Joe Rogan's podcast is the number one podcast in many countries, making him the most powerful journalist by a large margin, while CNN is considered a fringe organization in comparison (42m45s).
• The communication revolution has changed the way people consume information, and those who are not familiar with social media and podcasting do not realize the power and influence it holds (43m34s).
• Eduardo Bolsonaro's father, Jair Bolsonaro, has authenticity and is unafraid to speak his mind, which has helped him build trust with the people and gain a large following (43m45s).
• Jair Bolsonaro's approach to communication is different from traditional politicians, as he often uses live streaming to address scandals and issues directly, which has helped him build trust with the people (44m10s).
• Unlike other politicians, Jair Bolsonaro does not script his responses or worry about how his words will be received, which has helped him connect with the people and build a large following (44m29s).
• Jair Bolsonaro's social media presence is characterized by low-cost, unedited videos that showcase his authenticity and help him connect with the people (44m51s).
• The media often tries to portray Jair Bolsonaro as someone who is trying to be popular by wearing soccer team jerseys, but he is the same person in front of and behind the cameras (45m14s).
• During the pandemic, Jair Bolsonaro was president and there was a strong lockdown in Rio De Janeiro, with people being arrested for being on the beach, which was a notable event (45m32s).
• President Jair Bolsonaro's meeting with his ministers was recorded, but not intended for public viewing; however, the Supreme Court ordered the release of the video, which showed the president using strong words against the Justice Ministry, and this event actually helped him gain popularity among the people (46m2s).
• The video was broadcast live, and people loved seeing the president defend them and speak his mind, which contributed to his re-election (47m2s).
• The president's authenticity and consistency in his words and actions, both in public and private, resonated with the people, as seen in an incident where the speaker, Eduardo Bolsonaro, was approached by surfers who praised his father's honesty (47m43s).
• The lines between right and wrong are often blurred in today's society, but organizations like the Pre-Born Network of clinics are taking clear and positive action to protect vulnerable babies and support their mothers (48m18s).
• The Pre-Born Network provides comprehensive support, including ultrasound technology, practical necessities, and counseling services, to help mothers choose life and make a positive impact on their lives and the lives of their children (48m26s).
• Donations to the Pre-Born Network can be made by dialing pound 250 and saying the keyword "baby" or by visiting their website, with options for one-time donations or larger leadership gifts to place ultrasound machines in needed women's centers (49m2s).
• The speaker notes that many pioneers in social media, such as Joe Rogan, are consistent in their words and actions, both on and off camera, which is an important aspect of building trust and credibility with their audience (49m52s).
• Popular podcasters are often the same on and off their shows, with no persona, due to the lack of professionalism and the shift in the media landscape, where people have become more video literate and prefer unedited content (50m10s).
• Unstructured conversations, like those on YouTube, can reveal who is genuine and who is an "empty suit" after about 20 minutes, as it's difficult to stage a conversation that stays coherent and interesting (51m0s).
• Politicized discussions driven by ego tend to fail, whereas philosophical and direct conversations are more successful, as seen at the ARC conference in London (51m29s).
• The new media landscape is partly a consequence of increased bandwidth, allowing for longer, unedited content, and people have a longer attention span for listening than previously presumed (51m50s).
• People like Joe Rogan have demonstrated that people can have a three-hour attention span, and this shift in the media landscape is changing the way politics is conducted (52m31s).
• Leaders like PV and Eduardo Bolsonaro's father have effectively used social media to take their message directly to people, which is beneficial and likely to become more prevalent in politics (52m48s).
• This shift in politics allows leaders to communicate with no intermediaries, which can be extremely beneficial, as seen in the election of Eduardo Bolsonaro's father (53m14s).

Stabbed, legally dead twice, and he still won the election (53m17s)

• Jair Bolsonaro was elected as the President of Brazil in 2018 and served for four years, during which time he was stabbed in the belly by Adel Bispo, a former member of the radical left Socialist and Liberty party, while campaigning on the streets with a crowd of 20,000 to 30,000 people (53m32s).
• The stabbing occurred one month before the 2018 election, and Bolsonaro was almost killed, losing about 2.5 liters of blood and dying twice before being revived (54m55s).
• He was rushed to the hospital, where he received treatment from a specialist gastro medical doctor, and was given antibiotics that likely prevented infection due to a medicine given to him by a friend, former Tourism Minister Ju Masado, the day before (56m13s).
• Despite spending more than 70% of the campaign period in the hospital, Bolsonaro still won the election, which is seen as a significant achievement (56m52s).
• Eduardo Bolsonaro, the son of Jair Bolsonaro, also became the most voted Federal representative in the history of Brazil, receiving almost two million votes in his first campaign in 2018 (57m45s).
• The Bolsonaro family's party became very strong, growing from three congressmen to 52 after the 2018 election and almost 100 congressmen after the 2022 elections (58m12s).
• Jair Bolsonaro lost the 2022 presidential election while running for reelection, but his movement remains strong, with the Legacy Media trying to control the narrative with new bills against Free Speech (58m37s).

Losing re-election, there is no way to recount or audit the voting process (59m12s)

• In Brazil, discussing certain topics, such as the election process, can be considered anti-democratic, and individuals may face consequences, similar to what happened to Trump in Georgia, where he had a mug shot for talking about the election process (59m16s).
• The 2022 elections in Brazil had two theories, one of which questioned the reliability of the electronic voting machines used in the country, which are fully electronic and developed by the government (1h0m13s).
• The voting process in Brazil involves dialing the number of the candidate and pressing a button, but there is no way to recount or audit the votes, similar to the system used in Venezuela (1h0m21s).
• Paper ballots do not have the same problems as electronic voting machines, as they can be recounted and verified (1h1m27s).
• The introduction of new technology, such as electronic voting machines, can have unintended consequences and can be a concern for conservatives (1h1m57s).
• The Superior Electoral Court in Brazil is responsible for organizing, coordinating, and judging elections, and its president, Alexandri J Mor, has a personal problem with the Bolsonaro family (1h2m27s).
• Alexandri J Mor, as the head of the electoral court, made ridiculous decisions, such as not allowing the president to open a live streaming from his cell phone at his house (1h3m18s).
• In Brazil, public officials, including the President, do not have a publicly funded house, as they live in the White House, which is paid for by taxpayers (1h3m34s).
• Jair Bolsonaro was forbidden from broadcasting from his house, forcing him to leave his house to start live streaming (1h3m50s).
• During this period, there were restrictions on what could be said about Lula da Silva, with the number one conservative media in Brazil, Jovem Pan, receiving an order stating that they could not refer to Lula as a criminal or thief (1h4m24s).
• Lula da Silva was previously convicted for money laundering and corruption but had his convictions overturned two years before the election, allowing him to run for president (1h4m41s).
• The election in Brazil was not considered fair, despite the voting machines being trustworthy, due to the close margin between Lula da Silva and Jair Bolsonaro, with Lula winning 50.51% of the vote and Jair Bolsonaro receiving 49.1% or 49.2% (1h5m10s).
• In some left-wing states, voting continued after the official closing time of 5:00 p.m. on Sunday, with some states allowing voting until 6, 7, or 8:00 p.m. and adding millions of votes to the election (1h6m5s).
• There is a lack of transparency in the Brazilian electoral system, with the same people often working at polling stations election after election, which can lead to potential fraud (1h6m43s).
• The electoral law requires voting to stop at 5:00 p.m., but this was not enforced in some states, which could have led to more transparency and trust in the election (1h7m22s).
• Donald Trump recently announced that Eduardo Bolsonaro's father had more political experience when he took the presidency compared to Trump, who had business experience (1h7m56s).
• Eduardo Bolsonaro's family has reviewed the inadequacies of his father's first presidency, and one of the main criticisms of his father is that he talks too much (1h8m18s).
• Despite the criticism, Eduardo Bolsonaro believes that his father's presidency has had positive effects on the economy and crime rates, and has reduced bureaucracy, allowing citizens to have a better life (1h8m46s).
• The press often creates scandals around Eduardo Bolsonaro's father due to his tendency to use non-politically correct words when speaking to the press and the public (1h9m5s).
• Eduardo Bolsonaro notes that his father's frequent talking can affect people's perceptions and priorities, drawing a comparison to the phenomenon of people eagerly checking Twitter to see what President Trump had shared overnight (1h9m28s).

“A dangerous right-winger,” secondhand representations from the mainstream media (1h10m0s)

• The impression of Brazil and its president is often negative outside of the country, with people in Europe viewing the president as "far-right" and "dangerous" due to secondhand representations from the mainstream media (1h10m2s).
• The typical North American's perception of Bolsonaro is that of a "dangerous right-winger," which is a label that can be easily applied and believed due to the vast number of people and information available (1h10m37s).
• It is easy to smear someone's reputation, especially with disgust rather than fear, and this can be done by the mainstream media, which has a significant influence on public opinion (1h11m28s).
• The same phenomenon of labeling and smearing has occurred with other leaders, such as Meloni in Italy and Orban in Hungary, and is part of the operation of the mainstream media and the sway of progressives over universities and media (1h11m56s).
• The situation in Brazil is similar to that in the United States, Canada, and Europe, with the same dynamics of labeling and smearing playing out, making Brazil an important country to observe for Americans (1h12m25s).
• Brazil is unique in that censorship often comes through the hands of the Supreme Court, rather than the president or prime minister, which is different from other countries (1h12m45s).
• The influence of the mainstream media and progressives over universities and media is a significant factor in shaping public opinion and labeling certain leaders or movements as "far-right" (1h12m12s).

Elon Musk versus the Supreme Court of Brazil (1h12m59s)

• Alexander Mor, the chairman of the Electoral court in Brazil, was involved in a public argument with Elon Musk, as Mor was ordering Twitter to block conservative profiles without giving users the right to defend themselves, which is against Brazilian law (1h13m41s).
• Around 100 conservative profiles on Twitter got blocked in Brazil during the 2022 elections, and users were not informed that the blocking order came from Mor, but rather that they had violated Twitter's internal policies (1h13m50s).
• Elon Musk got involved in the situation after buying Twitter between the first and second round of the Brazilian election in October 2022, and he started a fight with Mor after commenting on one of Mor's tweets about censorship in Brazil (1h16m22s).
• The chairman of the Justice Committee of the US Congress, Mr. Jordan, asked Elon Musk to provide all emails exchanged with Brazilian authorities during the 2022 election period, which revealed that the Electoral Court was sending emails to Twitter to block people (1h17m11s).
• The report from the US Congress, which included around 500 pages of emails, showed the level of censorship in Brazil during the 2022 elections, including the blocking of journalist Paulo Figueiredo, who only found out why he was blocked after the report was released (1h17m30s).
• The situation in Brazil is not only a domestic issue, as European authorities, including Mor, have been spreading their views on censorship in Paris, London, and New York, and some European authorities have been following the fight between Mor and Musk closely (1h18m3s).
• A top EU official was also involved in the situation, although the details of their involvement are not specified in the provided text (1h18m38s).

The EU was not happy with Musk “platforming” Donald Trump on X (1h18m39s)

• An EU representative, whose name is not mentioned, complained about Elon Musk talking to Donald Trump, although it is unclear if the representative had the full authority of the EU to do so (1h18m46s).
• The complaint was met with a response letter from the US House of Representatives, signed by Jim Jordan, telling the EU representative to mind their own business (1h19m18s).
• The EU later distanced themselves from the representative's complaint, but the incident highlights the EU bureaucrats' unhappiness with Elon Musk (1h19m29s).
• The same sentiment is shared by the UK's Labour Party, who are also seen as enemies of Elon Musk and will try to stop him (1h19m49s).
• The situation with Elon Musk and the EU/UK is relevant to Brazil and is part of the reason why the topic should be of interest to the international community (1h20m2s).

Brazil banned X and froze Starlink resources (1h20m6s)

• Brazil's Supreme Court has been involved in censorship, with one of its justices, Alexandre de Moraes, ordering Twitter to be banned and threatening to arrest the Twitter team in Brazil, which led to Twitter being banned for a month before paying a fine to be reinstated (1h20m6s).
• The European authorities, described as "woke people" and "Progressives," were seen to be enjoying the situation, suggesting that they might be able to control Elon Musk and force censorship through the courts (1h20m33s).
• The President of Argentina, Javier Milei, offered asylum to the Twitter team in Brazil, stating that Argentina preserves freedom and free speech (1h21m0s).
• Alexandre de Moraes also froze some of the resources of Starlink, a company owned in part by Elon Musk, which has led to concerns about government overreach and totalitarianism (1h21m23s).
• Similar legislation is being proposed in Canada, with Bill C-63 imposing fines of up to 6% of a company's worldwide revenue per day for non-compliance with censorship regulations (1h21m43s).
• The proposed fines have raised concerns about the potential for abuse and the impact on companies like Starlink, which is owned in part by Elon Musk but also has other investors (1h22m20s).
• Some billionaires, including B. Wakman, have spoken out against the Brazilian Supreme Court's actions, warning that they could be a precursor to dictatorship (1h22m44s).
• The US Congress is paying attention to the situation in Brazil, with a bill proposed by Representative Mario V. Salazar of Florida that would revoke the visas of foreign authorities who do not respect the First Amendment rights of American citizens outside the US (1h23m22s).
• The bill, which has been approved in committee, would mean that foreign authorities who censor American citizens could be barred from entering the US (1h23m44s).
• The Brazilian Supreme Court's actions, such as banning Twitter, demonstrate a disregard for the law and an abuse of power, highlighting the need for checks on authority (1h24m35s).
• The US has the most potent protection for free speech rights in the world, with a strong tradition of upholding this right, unlike countries like Britain and European nations (1h25m7s).
• In contrast, Canada's free speech protections are weak, with a Charter of Rights that has many loopholes and is not effectively enforced (1h25m25s).
• The right to free speech is extremely well protected in the US, which will lead to a "war in cyberspace" between American law and the principles governing the rest of the world (1h25m43s).
• American social media companies, which dominate the global market, operate on the principle of free speech, making the situation in Brazil and the European Union particularly important (1h26m0s).
• The Brazilian authorities' actions, such as banning Twitter, are an attempt to force people to respect the law, but this approach is problematic and highlights the need for a more nuanced approach to regulating online speech (1h24m53s).

Corruption designed to outlast change (1h26m11s)

• The power and legitimacy of officials in Brazil, particularly those in the Supreme Court, are derived from their appointment by the president and approval by the Senate, with justices serving until they are 75 years old (1h26m13s).
• Alexander Morais, a Supreme Court Justice, was appointed in 2017 and will serve until around 2040, unless he chooses to retire earlier, and was appointed by President Michel Temer, a central-right president (1h26m33s).
• Morais' appointment was unexpected, given his current actions, and it is believed that his mission is to remove Bolsonaro from power and end the spontaneous movement created by him and other key figures, including the late Professor Olavo de Carvalho (1h27m22s).
• Professor Olavo de Carvalho was a key figure in the philosophical aspect of the conservative movement in Brazil, providing arguments and forming new leaders to sustain the movement in favor of morals, honesty, and conservative values (1h27m51s).
• The movement, led by Bolsonaro on the political side and Carvalho on the philosophical side, aimed to converge on the same target, with Morais' actions seen as an attempt to end this movement (1h28m29s).
• The attack on social media structures used by Bolsonaro's family and movement is seen as a reaction by the legacy establishment against the emergence of social media dominance, which has disrupted the monopoly on information (1h28m56s).

YouTube is full of tricks - which might be its downfall (1h29m11s)

• Legacy media and the establishment view Elon Musk as a threat due to his goal of making X the predominant source of information in the world, which could potentially supplant YouTube (1h29m11s).
• YouTube has been using tactics such as shadowbanning, manipulating search algorithms, and blocking autofill to limit the reach of certain users, including Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, and Donald Trump (1h29m33s).
• These tactics have also affected other users, such as Peterson, whose autofill was blocked for six months, causing a decline in viewership (1h29m52s).
• Elon Musk aims to make X a one-stop media platform, and his ambitions are working, with X becoming the number one news center in the world (1h30m13s).
• Although X is not yet a great platform for video sharing, it has the potential to surpass YouTube, especially considering Google's corporate issues and "idiocracy" over the past eight years (1h30m30s).
• A comparison between Google and Musk suggests that Musk has a higher chance of success due to Google's self-inflicted problems (1h30m36s).

There is no alternative media in Brazil, Rumble and X were forced to leave (1h30m54s)

• Rumble, an alternative social media platform, left Brazil after failing to comply with the orders of Alexandre Mor, indicating that the country does not value free speech (1h31m5s).
• X, another social media platform, also left Brazil shortly after Rumble's departure, leaving YouTube as the primary platform, which has been accused of shadow banning and reducing the voice of conservatives (1h31m21s).
• When Trump was kicked out of Twitter in January 2021, people in Brazil turned to alternative platforms like Parler and Gettr, with Gettr's CEO Jason Miller being a key figure in Trump's campaign (1h31m56s).
• Jason Miller was detained at a Brazilian airport for almost four hours by federal police officers who wanted him to sign papers written in Portuguese, which he did not understand (1h32m35s).
• Alexandre Mor has a personal fight against Elon Musk and Jason Miller, who are both close to Trump, and this conflict may be seen as an attack on democracy rather than a defense of it (1h33m17s).
• The situation in Brazil is seen as a warning to other countries, particularly in Europe, Latin America, and North America, not to copy the model of Brazilian censorship (1h34m8s).
• The struggle for free speech and against censorship is ongoing, and the outcome is uncertain, with the situation expected to play out over the next few years (1h34m20s).

Canadian Bill C-63, “free video … is a technological revolution bigger than the Gutenberg printing press” (1h34m27s)

• The Canadian Bill C-63 is considered devious because it initially appears to be about protecting children from online sexual exploitation, but actually contains totalitarian provisions in the middle (1h34m28s).
• The "online harms" bill is seen as a reaction by legacy communication systems against new technologies, which are changing the way information is distributed and consumed (1h35m16s).
• The rise of free, universally distributable, and permanent video content on platforms like YouTube is considered a technological revolution larger than the Gutenberg printing press (1h35m25s).
• The Gutenberg printing press spread literacy, but reading was still a minority occupation, with only about 2% of people buying hardcover books, and most of those not being read (1h35m49s).
• In contrast, audio content has become increasingly popular, with at least half of books now being consumed in audio format, and many people preferring to listen rather than read (1h36m5s).
• The advantage of audio content is that it can be consumed by anyone, regardless of literacy level, and can be listened to while doing other things (1h36m21s).
• The shift to new media has made legacy journalists and broadcasters obsolete, leading to a reaction against the new technologies (1h37m2s).
• Elon Musk has proposed taking away the broadcast rights of legacy media companies like CBS and NBC, which have a legal obligation to present both sides of a story but are not doing so (1h37m18s).
• The legacy media companies' monopoly on the electromagnetic spectrum is seen as no longer justified, and it is predicted that they will be replaced by tech companies that can make more efficient use of the spectrum (1h37m51s).
• The reaction against new media is seen as a broader phenomenon, playing out in many countries, including Brazil, Canada, the US, Europe, and Australia (1h38m16s).
• The adoption of new media by some individuals and groups, including the Bolsonaro family, is seen as a key factor in the reaction against them (1h38m33s).

Baron Trump and the first podcast election, Kamala Harris failed to compete (1h38m46s)

• The traditional media system is becoming archaic, but it's also empowering a new crop of politicians who are speaking directly to the people, which could have unpredictable consequences (1h38m48s).
• Trump's team, possibly influenced by his son Baron, has figured out how to use new media to their advantage, appearing on podcasts like Theovon and Rogan, which has helped him reach a large audience (1h39m2s).
• Trump's podcast appearances have been viewed by almost 50 million people, despite being shadow-banned, whereas Kamala Harris's podcast has only 745,000 views, highlighting the difference in audience engagement (1h39m37s).
• The people who follow Trump tend not to follow legacy media, whereas those who support Harris do, which contributes to the disparity in views (1h40m4s).
• For the first time in US history, people trust Congress more than the mainstream media, which is a significant shift in public perception (1h40m26s).
• In Brazil, many people still believe in and follow legacy media, but the numbers are declining, and the same trend is happening in Europe, where legacy media is still dominant but losing ground (1h40m41s).
• The economic model of broadcast networks has been demolished, and they are struggling to compete with free online content, leading to a decline in their influence and credibility (1h41m7s).
• The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) has made mistakes in its online strategy, such as not allowing comments on its YouTube channel, and its posts have received very few views despite a large government subsidy and advertising revenue (1h41m22s).
• The CBC's poor online performance has led to calls for the government subsidy to be stopped, with some arguing that it's a waste of taxpayer money (1h42m0s).

The future of Brazil’s political landscape, the 2026 election (1h42m23s)

• The future of Brazil's political landscape is uncertain, with the Supreme Court's decisions being unpopular, but the chairman of the Senate, Rodrigo Pacheco, has stated that he will not start impeachment proceedings against any of the judges (1h42m46s).
• The Supreme Court's actions are seen as an attack on the Constitution of the United States, the First Amendment, and American companies, including Elon Musk's Starlink and X (1h43m27s).
• Efforts are being made to provide information to US authorities to help address the situation in Brazil, with the support of politicians such as Jean Jordan, Mario V Salazar, Chris Smith, Richard McCormick, Mike Lee, Marco Rubio, and Rick Scott (1h43m45s).
• A hearing was held in the US Congress's human rights committee, with Chris Smith inviting the owner of Rumble, Mr. Pavlovski, and Paulo Figueiredo to debate censorship in Brazil (1h44m29s).
• International pressure may be a way to address the situation in Brazil, with the globalization of politics making it possible for countries to support each other (1h44m54s).
• The dispute between the Supreme Court and Elon Musk is seen as a reflection of a new kind of information warfare, pitting the First Amendment against other interests (1h45m36s).
• The Senate in Brazil is being cautious about starting impeachment proceedings against the Supreme Court justices, as this could lead to a conflict between branches of government (1h45m57s).
• The situation in Brazil is not unique, with similar political issues arising in other countries, and the hyperconnectivity of the world making it easier for these issues to spread (1h45m15s).
• The relationships fostered with US politicians are seen as a way to address the situation in Brazil and promote libertarian values (1h43m55s).
• The pressure on the Brazilian government is being mounted more effectively through the US and internationally than within Brazil itself (1h46m19s).
• The typical Brazilian who supported President Bolsonaro is still supportive, and the recent municipal election results show that the party has gained control and influence at the local level, with almost half of Brazil's cities and states having mayors and city councils from their party (1h46m45s).
• The municipal election was a success for President Bolsonaro's party, with over 140 cities won, while Lula da Silva's party did not perform well, and some of their candidates did not want Lula da Silva to campaign with them, indicating a decline in his credibility (1h47m12s).
• The next election in Brazil is scheduled for 2026, but President Bolsonaro is currently unable to run due to a conviction by the Electoral Court, which ruled that he had criticized the electoral process and was therefore anti-democratic (1h47m43s).
• However, there is a possibility that President Bolsonaro may be able to run again in 2026, as the Electoral Court's composition will change, with a new chairman and vice chairman who were appointed by President Bolsonaro, potentially leading to a more balanced and transparent election (1h48m34s).
• The precedent set by Lula da Silva's case, who was allowed to run for election despite being convicted of corruption, suggests that President Bolsonaro's conviction could also be overturned, allowing him to run again (1h49m20s).
• There are concerns about the safety of President Bolsonaro and his family, given the intense threats and atmosphere, and the possibility that he could be jailed (1h50m13s).
• The Brazilian establishment may be waiting for the outcome of the US election to determine their next steps, as they have relationships with businessmen and billionaires in the US and do not want to have problems with the US administration (1h51m22s).
• The Brazilian Supreme Court has significant power and is backed by wealthy individuals who have connections to the US, which may influence their decisions (1h51m31s).
• The chances of Jair Bolsonaro going to jail are considered lower now than in the past, despite the lack of a clear reason needed to imprison someone in Brazil (1h51m53s).
• A congressman named Daniel Silveira is currently in jail for nine years after making a video that the Supreme Court deemed an aggression against democracy, despite initially being pardoned by President Jair Bolsonaro (1h52m10s).
• The presidential pardon granted to Daniel Silveira was later canceled by the Supreme Court, a first in Brazilian history, and he is now back in prison (1h53m2s).
• There is hope that the new configuration of the Electoral Court may overturn Jair Bolsonaro's ineligibility and allow him to run in the 2026 election, given his significant moral and political capital (1h53m28s).
• Jair Bolsonaro remains popular, with large crowds following him even in left-wing cities, and his social media presence is strong (1h53m34s).
• The 2026 election in Brazil is scheduled to take place in October (1h53m50s).
• The discussion will continue on The Daily Wire, where topics such as Brazil's neighbors to the South will be explored, and viewers can join to update their knowledge on the subject (1h54m32s).
• El Salvador has been visited twice, once for vacation to surf due to its great waves, and another time to visit the jails, including the famous one built by Nayib Bukele, which has a capacity for 40,000 people (1h54m54s).
• Nayib Bukele's approach to reducing crime in El Salvador involves jailing criminals and not releasing them, resulting in the arrest of over 70,000 criminals (1h55m15s).
• El Salvador's murder rate decreased significantly from 102 murders per 100,000 people in 2016 to a level comparable to Canada or some European countries (1h55m32s).
• The discussion about Brazil will continue on The Daily Wire, exploring issues related to the country, especially given its connection to Elon Musk and free speech (1h56m11s).
• The conversation aims to bring issues regarding Brazil to broader public knowledge, and the podcast appreciates the support of its viewers and listeners (1h56m29s).