Billy Hult: 27 Years of Compounding Growth Leading to the Market Leader with $1.4BN in Revenue|E1134
29 Mar 2024 (9 months ago)
Billy’s Career Journey (1m3s)
- Billy Hult excelled in subjects he was interested in but struggled with those he found uninteresting.
- His challenging first job as a betting clerk in the South Bronx taught him valuable skills in quick thinking and interpersonal communication.
- Billy emphasizes the importance of focusing on one's strengths and pursuing passions, as this leads to better outcomes.
- While following one's passion is crucial, it's also essential to consider one's abilities and willingness to work hard.
- Billy Hult held traditional jobs as a bond broker and a sell-side bond trader before starting his own company.
- He found these jobs unfulfilling, possibly due to a lack of passion for them.
- Being CEO was a different experience for Billy compared to his previous roles.
The Path to CEO (6m22s)
- A CEO's role involves managing people, considering their egos, opinions, and personalities, and finding effective ways to motivate them.
- As the external face of the company, a CEO represents it at the highest level, sets the strategic direction, and ensures its execution.
- While hiring great people is important, a CEO should empower them to excel in their roles and make a positive impact.
- Engaging with key investors, clients, and industry leaders can help a CEO become a difference maker for their company.
- Effective communication and valuing others are essential for a CEO's success.
- People reveal themselves for a reason, and it's important to believe them and observe their growth over time.
Leadership and Management Insights (12m30s)
- Billy Hult, CEO of Tradeweb, emphasizes direct communication and setting clear expectations for employees.
- He believes in authenticity and understanding, while acknowledging the challenge of balancing decision-making between individual intuition and seeking input from others.
- Hult values consensus-building and input from smart individuals, but ultimately makes the final call when necessary.
- Tradeweb's success came from organic investments and growth rather than mergers and acquisitions, highlighting the importance of embracing change and making transformative deals.
- Hult encourages using ambitious language and pursuing big goals, comparing the process to the awkward feeling of adjusting one's golf swing during a lesson.
Cultivating a Talent Brand (20m15s)
- Billy discusses the importance of employer branding and attracting top talent, particularly in the competitive tech industry.
- Tradeweb aims to enhance its brand recognition and exposure to attract skilled technologists and business professionals.
- The company's history as a private entity has provided advantages, including a low-key profile that allowed it to navigate the complex dynamics of its clientele.
- Tradeweb's success lies in its ability to understand and adapt to the hierarchical structures of its clients, prioritizing their prominence over its own brand visibility.
- As a public company, Tradeweb recognizes the significance of increasing its brand presence while maintaining its focus on delivering value to clients.
Strategy in Positioning and Branding (23m53s)
- Billy Hult, the CEO of a company, discusses the challenges of managing his ego in a competitive business environment.
- Hult emphasizes the importance of balancing confidence and humility in leadership, ensuring that a casual approach does not undermine the perception of results.
- He acknowledges the need to check his ego and maintain self-awareness to avoid complacency and ensure his leadership style does not create a perception of casualness that undermines the company's achievements.
- Hult discusses the concept of pressure and how it can affect individuals, particularly in terms of feeling distracted and unable to relax.
Work-Life Harmony (31m35s)
- Billy Hult feels guilty when he goes home because he is not interested in conversations about everyday topics after being mentally stimulated all day at work.
- He struggles to maintain engagement and feels like he runs out of gas at the end of the day.
- He is aware of the details of his business issues but struggles to remember personal details like the name of his daughter's history teacher.
- He admits that he has not been the father he would have liked to be due to his commitment as CEO of a public company.
- He missed important events like his daughter's basketball games because he prioritized work.
- He questions whether his overwork was necessary and suggests that pressure may have influenced his decisions.
- He acknowledges that he may never know if his sacrifices were worth it and expresses regret for missing out on personal moments.
Parenting with Ambition (34m9s)
- Billy's parenting style has evolved over the years.
- He tries to balance providing love and support with encouraging his children to be ambitious and independent.
- He believes in teaching his children the value of hard work and personal achievement rather than relying on inherited wealth.
Valuing Money, Fame, and Power (37m37s)
- Billy ranks fame as the least important of the three.
- He believes that power is important but should not be dismissed or underestimated.
- He prefers to prosper below the radar and avoid excessive attention.
Wealth’s Influence on Leadership (38m28s)
- Wealth can remove downside fear, allowing leaders to be more courageous.
- Richer leaders may have more wisdom and credibility.
- Steve Schwarzman, a wealthy investor, advised Billy to enjoy his success and not lose sight of his hard work.
Public Company Pros and Cons (41m19s)
- Being a public company CEO can be challenging, with time spent on corporate governance and regulations.
- Public companies have a higher profile and can attract interest and connections.
- The stock price can serve as a daily measure of a company's performance.
- Billy finds it challenging to separate his mental state from his company's performance since there's no ticker for his company.
- He feels down when his company is down and struggles to detach from its performance.
- Billy tries to differentiate between market repricing and subpar business performance when his company's stock is down.
- He acknowledges that while his company has generally performed well, there have been moments of negative reactions to their business.
Betting on People as a Leader (43m54s)
- Billy Hult, the CEO, emphasizes the significance of investing in people as a key strategy for the company's growth.
- He takes calculated risks in building relationships, including hiring decisions and board member selections, with an estimated 50% success rate.
- When bets on individuals don't work out, it's often due to misaligned expectations, chemistry issues, or pushing people beyond their comfort zones.
- Hult stresses the importance of clear communication, direct feedback, and collaborative dynamics in these relationships.
- Replacing individuals who don't fit can be time-consuming, involving removal, finding replacements, and onboarding new hires.
- The time to recognize a bad bet varies, but there are instances where individuals turn things around.
- Hult believes in second chances and pushing people to reach their full potential, seeing qualities in them that they may not recognize themselves.
- He sets high standards and is demanding but fair in his approach.
Young Generation Work Ethic (49m53s)
- Billy believes the younger generation is entitled and prioritizes work-life balance, making it challenging to replicate the demanding work environments of the 80s and 90s.
- He acknowledges the benefits of hustle, grit, and perseverance, observing that exceptional individuals show early signs of exceptionalism.
- Billy explains that he prefers unwavering hustle over unwavering intelligence, emphasizing the importance of offset skills.
- Billy prefers to invest in individuals who have demonstrated consistent success throughout their lives, rather than those who achieve success later in life.
- He believes that those who have experienced challenges and setbacks are more resilient and motivated to succeed.
- Billy is attracted to highly intelligent individuals but is cautious of those who are overly intelligent, as they may lack other important qualities.
Balancing Hiring Strategies (54m28s)
- Billy made hiring mistakes by initially focusing on pedigreed individuals and then switching to inexperienced and overly ambitious candidates.
- He emphasizes the importance of finding a balance between experience and hunger, as well as grit, resilience, and street smarts.
- Billy reflects on the decline of the "old-fashioned" ethos that valued these qualities at Bear Stearns.
Financial Market Challenges (Assigned to Luca) (56m12s)
- Billy compares current economic concerns to past crises such as 9/11, the 2008 financial crisis, and recent shocks to regional banks.
- He acknowledges the fragility of the current financial system and expresses concern about geopolitical tensions and global instability.
- Billy discusses the impact of geopolitical events on Tradeweb's business, particularly in emerging markets like China.
Quick-Fire Questions (59m23s)
- Billy Hult, the CEO of a successful company, now believes that Trump will win the election.
- Despite geopolitical challenges, Hult remains optimistic about his company's future and personal growth.
- Hult recommends Tom Wolfe's "Bonfire of the Vanities" as the best book on financial markets.
- Hult advises new CEOs to set boundaries and preserve time to maintain a healthy work-life balance.
- Hult envisions his company as a high-powered global marketplace in ten years, emphasizing the importance of customer focus.
- Continuous growth and innovation are crucial for maintaining market leadership, warns Hult.
- Hult is determined to prevent complacency and office politics from hindering idea generation and company culture.