Scaling Childcare with Tech: Winnie.com’s Blueprint for Growing with Purpose & Profit | E2005

Sara Mauskopf, CEO of Winnie joins Alex (0s)

• There is a desire for increased government and employer support within the childcare market. (6s)
• The childcare market is not a lucrative field with a primary focus on improving the industry for future generations. (18s)
• This is an episode of the show "This Week in Startups" hosted by Alex, featuring Sarah Mauskopf, co-founder and CEO of Winnie. (1m11s)

Winnie's evolution, pivot, and focus on childcare services (1m45s)

• Winnie, launched in 2016, initially aimed to be a platform for parents to find places to go with their children. (2m17s)
• The company pivoted to focus solely on childcare services, becoming a marketplace for parents to find daycare, preschool, and after-school care. (2m31s)
• Winnie's early efforts in building a comprehensive directory of licensed childcare providers across the US, though not initially profitable, proved valuable in establishing a foundation for their current marketplace model. (2m54s)

Building Winnie's database and reflections on company growth (7m25s)

• Winnie initially used manual processes, including phone calls and website research, to build its database of childcare providers. (7m46s)
• Winnie has since implemented automated systems, such as one-click emails and integrations with licensing databases, to streamline data collection and updates. (7m54s)
• The founder expresses regret over early inefficiencies and acknowledges that the initial manual processes were costly. (8m27s)

Brave Search API. Get started for free (9m55s)

• Brave Search API is a new tool that allows developers to access Brave's search index data. (10m28s)
• The API offers various features, including powering chatbots, training AI models, and providing real-time query answers. (10m33s)
• Brave Search API is free for up to 2,000 searches per month and then costs $3 per 1,000 searches after that. (10m55s)

The value of transparency and growth metrics (12m8s)

• Inc. Magazine's list of the fastest-growing companies is considered more legitimate than other lists because it requires financial documentation. (12m20s)
• Sharing financial information can be beneficial for companies as it can attract investors and customers. (16m10s)
• Winnie, a company featured on the Inc. list, experienced a decline in its ranking due to a focus on maintaining stable expenses and building a financial reserve rather than rapid growth. (17m57s)

CLA. Get started now (19m20s)

• Businesses should seek professional service firms specializing in their industry and size. (20m2s)
• It is advisable to select a firm capable of supporting the business's growth for the next three to five years. (20m39s)
• Businesses should prioritize finding a trustworthy advisor for tax and accounting matters. (20m41s)

Market positioning, motivations, and goals in the childcare industry (21m16s)

• The childcare market is viewed as a rising tide that will lift all boats, with more funding and interest coming into the industry. (21m27s)
• The primary motivation for being involved in the childcare market is a desire to improve the industry and make things better for future generations, rather than solely focusing on financial gain. (22m12s)
• There is a recognized need for a better national childcare system, with the potential for companies like Winnie to fill the gap and support working parents. (22m56s)

Addressing gender dynamics and startup funding (23m30s)

• Women-led companies receive a small percentage of venture capital funding, approximately 2% or less. (24m44s)
• Despite the large market for childcare solutions, there is a lack of competition in the industry, potentially due to the underrepresentation of women in venture capital funding. (25m11s)
• Winnie, a company in the childcare industry, chose to prioritize profitability over seeking additional venture capital funding, opting to grow their business by focusing on their customer base. (27m10s)

Balancing investor expectations with business models (27m34s)

• Investors preferred a flat fee subscription revenue model over the company's usage-based model. (28m15s)
• Investors encouraged the company to compete directly with established businesses in the market, such as Procare or Brightwheel. (28m40s)
• Investors saw potential in selling to employers, despite the company's reservations and the declining trend of employer-sponsored childcare. (29m2s)

Sprig. Visit to book a demo and get a $75 gift card. (29m43s)

• Sprig is a product experience platform that uses AI to help improve products. (30m2s)
• Sprig gathers real-time product experience data through heatmaps, replays, surveys, and feedback studies. (30m10s)
• Sprig analyzes the data to provide actionable product recommendations to help businesses drive revenue, increase retention, and improve user satisfaction. (30m31s)

Profitability, operational efficiency, and managing costs (31m10s)

• Winnie's largest expense is its workforce, followed by marketing costs, which are primarily driven by search engine optimization (SEO) and search engine marketing (SEM). (35m1s)
• Winnie prioritizes profitability and manages costs by maintaining a small and efficient team, avoiding unnecessary expenses, and focusing on organic growth through SEO. (34m36s)
• Winnie acknowledges the significance of paid marketing channels, particularly SEM, to supplement organic reach and target specific markets or niches where organic search presence is limited. (36m21s)

Marketing strategies, brand growth, and the impact of Google’s model (37m1s)

• Winnie.com leverages its large user base for marketing, engaging in email marketing and targeting users with multiple children seeking new childcare options. (37m18s)
• The company is investing in brand building, recognizing the prevalence of branded childcare searches and aiming to capitalize on this untapped opportunity. (37m40s)
• The decline in organic Google search traffic has benefited Winnie.com as childcare businesses struggle to adapt, leading them to rely on Winnie.com's platform to reach families. (38m7s)

Adapting to changing childcare demands due to remote work (40m30s)

• Parents are increasingly looking for part-time and flexible childcare arrangements due to economic pressures and the desire to reduce childcare costs. (40m35s)
• The availability of remote and hybrid work options has allowed some parents, particularly women, to manage childcare responsibilities while working, potentially contributing to a gender gap in remote work statistics. (42m0s)
• The increasing prevalence of remote work arrangements can disproportionately impact women, as they often assume a larger share of caregiving responsibilities, potentially hindering their career progression and earnings. (42m44s)

Efforts to reduce childcare costs and home-based business challenges (44m8s)

• One of the biggest expenses for childcare businesses is not running at capacity. (44m27s)
• Winnie aims to help childcare businesses become more profitable by helping them run at capacity, offer additional services, and market their services effectively. (45m2s)
• Winnie only works with licensed childcare businesses, including home daycares, to ensure safety and compliance with state regulations. (46m38s)

Balancing profitability with growth and venture capital experiences (50m6s)

• The company is not bootstrapped and therefore decisions need to be made that are in the best interest of all shareholders. (50m24s)
• The combined shares of the founders makes them the largest shareholder but there are many others on the cap table. (51m21s)
• The company has a supportive group of investors who are aligned on the importance of doing good for families and children. (52m26s)

SaaS pricing challenges and the impact of AI (54m0s)

• HubSpot automatically upgraded a user's account and then required a sales call to downgrade. (54m23s)
• SaaS companies are raising prices, leading customers to consider building their own solutions. (55m50s)
• The increasing cost of SaaS products, coupled with AI-accelerated programming, may lead to a resurgence of homegrown services. (57m31s)

Tech M&A, FTC regulations, and innovation policies (58m22s)

• Concerns were raised about the impact of large tech companies acquiring smaller startups, particularly in light of the FTC's regulations and their potential to stifle innovation. (58m31s)
• The current state of the IPO market and the need for startups to have viable exit strategies were discussed, with M&A being a critical path for venture capitalists to see returns. (1h0m7s)
• The lack of clarity regarding the presidential candidates' stances on innovation, startups, and the venture ecosystem was highlighted as a concern. (1h1m44s)